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Live Like a Tracker

An interesting question that I think about a lot: how do you balance exploring the new with savoring what you already know and love? Most of the time I prefer to explore, but the best part of this podcast experience for me has been meeting people who become close friends. For episodes 99 and 100, I’m bringing back two of the most popular past guest who are both now dear friends.

This week’s episode is split into two parts, today and tomorrow. Today’s episode is with Boyd Varty and tomorrow is with both Boyd and his sister Bronwyn. The incredible Varty family hosted me in South Africa, so you’ll hear birds and elephants in the background as we talk.

This conversation with Boyd is about our shared experience called “track your life” which I couldn’t recommend more highly. We tracked animals on foot for five days, and learned a lot from the environment itself. While we discuss our time together, this is much more about how to live. My original conversation with Boyd had a huge impact on me, and this continues the exploration of Boyd’s idea that we should all be going our own way, in the right way, instead of simply following well-trodden paths.

I hope you enjoy this conversation with Boyd and the second podcast conservation with his sister Bronwyn Varty-Laburn.

Show Notes

1:55 – (First Question) – Encounter with five wild dogs

10:19 – The idea of a perfect day on the track

15:59 – The importance of silence

19:42 – Why we could all benefit from the power of silence

21:37 – Side effects of being on the track

23:49 – Following the smaller paths

25:20 – How culture can keep us from forging our own path

29:34 – The stress he puts on the watch at night

33:34 – The power of going from alert to rest and back again

35:11 – Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers

38:25 – Disconnecting from the modern world and reconnecting with your life’s purpose

41:42 – How much does skill play into finding your life’s calling

43:23 – Common objections to what they do

49:58 – Importance of end of day on the track

52:33 – Silence and feeling of thousands of years of time passing through hallucinogenic

56:22 – His experience with bees


* This post is copied and embedded from my good friend Patrick O’Shaugnessy’s Podcast – Invest Like the Best on his website the Investor Field Guide

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Podcast: What Being Stung by a Swarm of Bees Taught Me About Humanity

What if bees might be holding the key to an algorithm that could teach humanity how to create vast shifts in our collective consciousness? What if they are holding the key to how an individual can create waves of change through complex social structures. What if they teach us more than any creature about how deeply relational all life is. Well I learnt all of this…and then respect. Listen to my story on how being stung by hundreds of bees taught me all of this and more!

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Podcast: Synchronicity

What if your life were being composed by an aspect of your consciousness that you are not aware of?  Is this not what happens when we dream? What if we left moments and symbols in the dream of life to help us wake up to a deeper reality than what meets the eye? These moments might be what you could call synchronicity.

Synchronicity is a deeply meaningful and yet unlikely occurrence in time and space that forces you to wonder what the fabric of life is made of.  As a tracker one must first notice a deeper harmony in life and then try and fall into step with that unfolding so your life gives way to life itself.

Take a listen to my 17 minute podcast in which I share with you some of my thoughts on the incredible occurrence of synchronicity…

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Podcast: Meeting Yourself in Wilderness

During a walk that I went on a couple of weeks ago, I felt a certain shift in consciousness, and a shift in the way that I was perceiving the natural world. It’s something that stayed with me for a long time, and I realised that what I was discovering was a much more native way of discovering myself in all things, in the natural world. It began with a very critical voice, centered on the fact that I felt like I wasn’t doing enough. I had all these places I wanted to be, and things I wanted to achieve, and I wasn’t doing enough to get there. That’s my common theme (it may be a different theme for you…we all have one). When that voice should have made me do more and motivate me, it actually made me rebel against it, and stop doing things. It was a recurring pattern for a week or so, and so I turned to the wilderness for the answers…

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The Art of Tracking

Track Your Life Men

It was so great to sit down with my friend Patrick o shaunnessy  for a conversation about the art of tracking on his podcast the investorfield guide. Patrick and I come from very different necks of the wood so to speak but we quickly realized that while our lives are very different we are both inner trackers. By this I mean we both people who are interested in what it means to live a fully engaged life and in that way both trackers of meaning.

Hope you will enjoy this journey into tracking.

This week’s episode is the most unique to date. My guest is Boyd Varty, who grew up in the South African Bush, living among and tracking wild leopards. The main theme of our conversation is tracking, and how the same strategy for pursuing animals in the wild can be applied to all aspects of our lives. Boyd’s family has been tracking animals for four generations, and he is bringing what they have learned to a larger audience around the world.

The episode includes the best answer I’ve ever heard (which comes when I ask Boyd to describe his most memorable experience). We also discuss the dangers of an achievement or goal-oriented mindset, and what he learned from spending time with Nelson Mandela as a boy.

This episode is one I hope you share with those you love because I think Boyd’s ideas will have a profound impact on many who are thinking about what to do with their lives—whether they are young or old.

Please enjoy.



Links Referenced

The Presencing Institute

Ted Talk

Workshops/Tracking Retreats

Seminar in Deer Valley


Books Referenced

Cathedral of the Wild: An African Journey Home by Boyd Varty

Martha Beck’s work

Finding Your Way in a Wild New World: Reclaim Your True Nature to Create the Life You Want


Show Notes

(First Question) 1:52 – Exploring Boyd’s childhood through a story about a black mamba

5:05 – Looking at the early history of Boyd’s family and their foundation in the bush of South Africa

8:52 – The launch of their safari business

9:58 – How they connected with an ecologist that encouraged them to “partner” with the land and how that led to the leopards of Londolozi

16:17 – Expanding their model to other areas and creating an economy of wildlife.

17:04 – How Boyd discovered what he wanted to do with his life in healing

17:12– Cathedral of the Wild: An African Journey Home by Boyd Varty

22:41 – The concept of Ubuntu, the African value “I am, because of you.”

27:10 – How Patrick got to meet Boyd

28:07 – Exploring the idea of building your villages and some of the forces that combat that in our daily lives.

33:15 – The difficulty in following your inner compass

33:58 – Mr. Money Mustache

38:47 – Looking at Boyd’s early experiences in tracking and how he applies those principles in his current life.

44:15 – Exploring the two different types of confidence and why there’s a benefit to throwing yourself into difficult situations, especially as a tracker.

49:05 – Identifying the places where you can be relentless in life

50:58 – The single most memorable tracking experience for Boyd, which is an incredible tale of tracking lions.   (Also one of the best answers to a question yet)

1:03:41 – What can people do to get the holistic experience of the African bush

1:04:12 – The Presencing Institute

1:06:07 – Ways that people can learn more about Boyd.

1:06:23 – Ted Talk

1:06:35 – The book

1:06:40 – Workshops/Tracking Retreats

1:06:58 – Seminar in Deer Valley

1:07:05 – Martha Beck’s work

1:07:07 – Finding Your Way in a Wild New World: Reclaim Your True Nature to Create the Life You Want

1:07:28 – Website

1:08:48– When Nelson Mandela stayed with his family after getting out of prison

1:15:28 – Kindest thing anyone has ever done for Boyd

1:17:07 – A story of how his friend Solly saved his life from a crocodile


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